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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Dec 3, 2006 3:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Boys

So, here I am again.
I realized something throughout this Sunday afternoon. It was an important discoverly that I thought I would share with you all.

I went over to deadhook and counted up how many people are registered over there, that made their way over from here. The number is 13. Don't worry Ashes, even though you originally signed up, I didn't include you in that number. These people are either, posting around the forum, swapping PM's or e-mailing me or have already started trading with me! (thanks guys!)

Then in the last few hours of this Sunday afternoon, I've received touching posts, PM's and e-mails from a number of you. Don't worry boys, you know who you are, and your secrets are safe with me! Even the couple of you that normally lurk here on LMA , were confident enough to reach out to me.

The things that you said and they way they were brought across to me, were touching and sincere. You commented on sexism, brought up your own frustration with the others on this forum, and even made me blush with those "cute deadhead" comments again. You sincerely asked me not to leave, to reconsider.

so, here's my discovery... I had fun telling Dire that he was secretly a sheep in wolf's clothing, a big wolf-pup MUSH. But the truth is, there are a lot of wolf-pup mush's on this forum. A lot of gentlemen. While I could easily turn my back on all of you, and as robthewordsmith simply said, 'give up on you all', I think it would be me who was losing out then, as well as you.

One of you put it beautifully.... "Don't let a few rotten apples spoil the bunch"! Another one of you hoped I had a tough skin... did you see those pictures of the art show? That's me. :) You see my huge smile from ear to ear? No, I don't really have a tough skin... I'm a mush too! I took my kids to a jerry art show on a saturday afternoon! that should have given it away! I'm a girlie girl, thru and thru.

BUT... I am going to toughen my skin up!! starting now. And I'm not giving up on you robthewordsmith. so we will get our chance to talk. And to my lurker friends who were brave enough to tell me their stories, I'm not going anywhere, so you don't either. Even if you're only reading quietly and not participating, I want you laughing out loud when I tell Dire off or we get into one of our little 'tiffs'and Deadmax complains about the furniture and the cat! :)

I do not think that anyone of us has to validate to any other person here, WHY we are here, though lord knows I have been over that one time and again. But here it is Ashes, tBrad and anybody else in there sub-category... I'M HERE!! PERIOD!! As much as Dire would love me to admit I'm here just for him, I'm not. I read everything everyone writes! I've got notes written a mile long on shows recommendations you make and things you say. I'm learning from you, and in the mean time, I'm getting a huge kick out of how much fun some of you could be.

I will be in touch with Dire, and Deadmax and JodyC on the differences between here and deadhook, and the way you 'run this forum'. I will start my tutoring. Anyone else want to "tutor" me?? =D lol!!

But back to that sub-category I was talking to ...let's make a deal. You stay out of my way, and I'll stay out of yours. You don't like what I'm posting or what I'm asking?? DON"T F"ING READ IT!!! that simple! Move on to other stuff and leave me alone. I'm not here for you.

the wolf-pup mush's know why I'm here. and the gentlemen do too.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Dec 3, 2006 4:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

I'm surprised you put so much thought into these guys "feelings", those pms must have been heartfelt.

I was glad to see the last few lines about if you don't want to read it then don't f*cking read it. That's what a lot of the guys were saying and you and they are correct. That's what this and all forums are about. (Well maybe not a forum on heirloom roses - i think there you better well talk about f*cking heirloom roses).

This is a great bunch of people here at the Archive forum they're just maybe not as "friendly" as the people at Deadhook, but they sure are a knowledgeable bunch and I really like it when we can get on a thread that goes on and on like the parking lot after the show. Its real sharing to me. I don't need to know all kinds of particulars about everyone, but if someone wants to share that's ok too.

I'm glad you're back here. It really was just one person and he didn't even know you were a Mama Bear. Toughen up and brave it out and when they start to say stupid things, tell them to shut the f*ck up and go on with it.

I'm burning some special disks right now. They were going to be to listen to while you were licking your wounds but now they can be in celebration.

Peace be to all and let the fur flying begin again!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2006 4:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

Boys will be boys. Isn't it amazing that with the influx of folks (am I right about that old timers? There are more folks at the forum this month than two months ago?) at the forum, many threads of late have been about 'how' we go about doing what we do here? Normal socialization, I am sure. Difficult, tedious, irritating, but probably necessary.

I think back to all the good stuff going on this morning here, and think, again, that there is just too much good will here to feel too bad about any of the awkwardness we are bound to experience as we roll along. I have no problem with folks being upset with changes, with requests for information, for whatever happens at one level, because it just makes sense that it won't be simple or straightforward with this medium (or maybe any).

This post was modified by William Tell on 2006-12-04 00:42:19

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 3, 2006 4:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

"As much as Dire would love me to admit I'm here just for him, I'm not."

Awwwww - now my feeling are crushed - lol.

very glad to read that post dbear. happy you decided not to bail. hope you saw the outpouring of positive vibes being sent your way by many of the forum regulars - the true gentlemen of the site. I was disgusted as were many others. you have alot to offer here - moreso than some others who visit this site regularly. Like many have said (as i have a tendency to do) just tell people to "fuck off" when they get nasty. Your posts have shown you are a true head and you contributions to this site are MORE than welcome.

this may not be like deadhook at all - this is different, but it is cool, even if you have to slap certain people upside the head once in awhile - plenty of people here to defend you, as they do me and I others. welcome back my freind :)

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Poster: desact Date: Dec 3, 2006 5:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

That's right, the women are smarter...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 3, 2006 5:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

Now there's a funny tune I like a lot.

" I can't do what the big boys do man sat down and he cried too" or " ever since the world began women been mending the ways of man"

wonder how many people never got what this song is about - women being good at whippin men

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 5, 2006 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

always a fun song to change the lyrics to :)

wonder how many know it's a robert palmer song ;)~

had a buddy who use to sing :

never trust a woman who rolls her joints too tight !!!

This post was modified by Fishead on 2006-12-05 17:11:26

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 5, 2006 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

No it's not! Never heard his version but this song goes back longer than that - called " man smart/woman smarter" I think even Desi Arnaz did it, or maybe it was Harry Belefonte. Or maybe both. Anyways it's a calypso Island song in origin I think.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 5, 2006 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

Yep, Belafonte had a big hit with it. I've always thought that those who confidently sang "the women are smarter" did not necessarily catch the irony the song as originally recorded and frequently reprised throughout the caribbean:

I say let us put man and a woman together
To find out which one is smarter
Some say man but I say no
The woman got the man de day should know

And not me but the people they say
That de man are leading de women astray
But I say, that the women of today
Smarter than the man in every way
That’s right de woman is uh smarter
That’s right de woman is uh smarter
That’s right de woman is uh smarter, that’s right, that’s right

Ever since the world began
Woman was always teaching man
And I you listen to my bid attentively
I goin’ tell you how she smarter than me

Samson was the strongest man long ago
No one could a beat him, as we all know
Until he clash with Deliah on top of the bed
She told them all the strength was in the hair of his head

You meet a girl at a pretty dance
Thinking that you would stand a chance
Take her home, thinking she’s alone
Open de door you find her husband home

I was treating a girl independently
She was making baby for me
When de baby born and I went to see
Eyes was blue it was not by me

Garden of Eden was very nice
Adam never work in Paradise
Eve meet snake, Paradise gone
She make Adam work from that day on

Methusaleh spent all his life in tears
Lived without a woman for 900 years
One day he decided to have some fun
The poor man never lived to see 900 and one

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 5, 2006 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

thanks for posting those lyrics - never seen all of them before - great tune :)

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 5, 2006 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

ok bad !

well anyway palmer covered it ..palmers version is very good and the carpenters also covered it .....

under belefonte's it lists a guy named norman span/harry thomas as the composer who also wrote matilda...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 5, 2006 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

Can't go wrong with Robert Palmer. I love his stuff with Little Feat as his backing band. Sneaking Sally . . .

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 5, 2006 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Boys

sneaking sally great tune ..worked with a dude who i swear that song was written about :)

the radiators do a nice version


sally>hard to handle!